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		<title>By: Coluch</title>
		<link>http://www.animoller.com/2005/07/11/london-bombings/comment-page-2/#comment-15356</link>
		<dc:creator>Coluch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 00:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to beck&#8217;s question &#8220;why there isn&#8217;t outrage over what Muslim extremists want. Only outrage over U.S. foreign policy.&#8221; I say education on the issues is the culprit.&lt;br /&gt;
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One answer could be the media, and how &#8216;the war&#8217; gets the attention that the newsmakers want. But I&#8217;m not really a fan of blaming the media for everything. Who funds the media, what are their interests, who do they associate &amp; do business with? That&#8217;s a better place to look, but there are too many questions involved to get into that here.&lt;br /&gt;
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A simpler angle would be to consider the effects of the United States&#8217; foreign policy in the past 60 years VS. the effects of the Islamic fundamentalists.&lt;br /&gt;
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American (and I hate that term, because it isn&#8217;t accurate)...  American influence is felt far more than Islamic influence, if there is such a thing, in most &#8216;western&#8217; societies. The Yanks are an easy target because we know more about them. Bottom line. &lt;br /&gt;
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How much do people know about Islamic extremists? How much do people know about their leaders and policies, or lack therof?&lt;br /&gt;
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I think everyone should check out a documentary called THE POWER OF NIGHTMARES.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think you can read about it at http://bbc.co.uk/nightmares&lt;br /&gt;
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cheers. j!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to beck&#8217;s question &#8220;why there isn&#8217;t outrage over what Muslim extremists want. Only outrage over U.S. foreign policy.&#8221; I say education on the issues is the culprit.</p>
<p>One answer could be the media, and how &#8216;the war&#8217; gets the attention that the newsmakers want. But I&#8217;m not really a fan of blaming the media for everything. Who funds the media, what are their interests, who do they associate &#38; do business with? That&#8217;s a better place to look, but there are too many questions involved to get into that here.</p>
<p>A simpler angle would be to consider the effects of the United States&#8217; foreign policy in the past 60 years VS. the effects of the Islamic fundamentalists.</p>
<p>American (and I hate that term, because it isn&#8217;t accurate)&#8230;  American influence is felt far more than Islamic influence, if there is such a thing, in most &#8216;western&#8217; societies. The Yanks are an easy target because we know more about them. Bottom line. </p>
<p>How much do people know about Islamic extremists? How much do people know about their leaders and policies, or lack therof?</p>
<p>I think everyone should check out a documentary called THE POWER OF NIGHTMARES.</p>
<p>I think you can read about it at <a href="http://bbc.co.uk/nightmares" rel="nofollow">http://bbc.co.uk/nightmares</a></p>
<p>cheers. j!</p>
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		<title>By: DartFish</title>
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		<dc:creator>DartFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 14:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo, Beck.&lt;br /&gt;
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It would be nice to see you start a blog.&lt;br /&gt;
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And I&#8217;m being respectful here when I say this.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lemme know, please, if you decide to start one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo, Beck.</p>
<p>It would be nice to see you start a blog.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m being respectful here when I say this.</p>
<p>Lemme know, please, if you decide to start one.</p>
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		<title>By: beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW I guess I&#8217;m expressing the same sentiment as Ani&#8217;s original post, only I think it would be great if people would put a moritorium on bitching about the U.S. for awhile. Just try it. For one single week, every time you are about to bitch about the U.S. or Bush foreign policy or the american media, instead, express outrage over Jihadis and how many innocents they have killed in the last 30+ years.&lt;br /&gt;
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It might take a while to get used to this change, and you might have to actually do some research into the subject since criticism of America is so much easier to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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Then do something about it&#8212;write a protest song, or make a documentary, or do a painting or drawing&#8212;that expresses your feelings about the innocent lives that are lost everyday in the name of Allah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW I guess I&#8217;m expressing the same sentiment as Ani&#8217;s original post, only I think it would be great if people would put a moritorium on bitching about the U.S. for awhile. Just try it. For one single week, every time you are about to bitch about the U.S. or Bush foreign policy or the american media, instead, express outrage over Jihadis and how many innocents they have killed in the last 30+ years.</p>
<p>It might take a while to get used to this change, and you might have to actually do some research into the subject since criticism of America is so much easier to come by.</p>
<p>Then do something about it&#8212;write a protest song, or make a documentary, or do a painting or drawing&#8212;that expresses your feelings about the innocent lives that are lost everyday in the name of Allah.</p>
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		<title>By: beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#8217;t talking about what you said, I was talking about what you and others don&#8217;t say. I just don&#8217;t understand why there isn&#8217;t outrage over what Muslim extremists want. Only outrage over U.S. foreign policy. It&#8217;s so absurd. We&#8217;re talking about murderers who kill innocent people every single day in Iraq. Women, children, teenagers. Just last week, Steven Vincent, an Author, was killed in Basra.  And why? Not just because they want the U.S. out. If that was the case they would target the U.S. Think about it.  This journalist is anti-U.S. No, these people actually want the whole world to be an Islamic Republic. &lt;br /&gt;
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The KKK is a good point of comparison. These people are like the KKK but armed to the teeth, and at war with ordinary people who just want to live their lives. And where is the outrage? There is none. None whatsoever. Just constant bitching about the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
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So yeah I know that nobody is saying anything. That is exactly the problem in my view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t talking about what you said, I was talking about what you and others don&#8217;t say. I just don&#8217;t understand why there isn&#8217;t outrage over what Muslim extremists want. Only outrage over U.S. foreign policy. It&#8217;s so absurd. We&#8217;re talking about murderers who kill innocent people every single day in Iraq. Women, children, teenagers. Just last week, Steven Vincent, an Author, was killed in Basra.  And why? Not just because they want the U.S. out. If that was the case they would target the U.S. Think about it.  This journalist is anti-U.S. No, these people actually want the whole world to be an Islamic Republic. </p>
<p>The KKK is a good point of comparison. These people are like the KKK but armed to the teeth, and at war with ordinary people who just want to live their lives. And where is the outrage? There is none. None whatsoever. Just constant bitching about the United States.</p>
<p>So yeah I know that nobody is saying anything. That is exactly the problem in my view.</p>
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		<title>By: VOICE OF REASON</title>
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		<dc:creator>VOICE OF REASON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEY EVERYONE&lt;br /&gt;
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SHUT UP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY EVERYONE</p>
<p>SHUT UP</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver :)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver :)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 08:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relax &amp; read my post again, I did not downplay anything, and I also did not say anything against W. You sure are easy to trigger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relax &#38; read my post again, I did not downplay anything, and I also did not say anything against W. You sure are easy to trigger.</p>
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		<title>By: beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But yeah, Bush is Hitler. And what about women in Afghanistan who now actually might be able to get an education and rise above her status as a piece of cattle? Yawn, that&#8217;s not cool so who cares?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But yeah, Bush is Hitler. And what about women in Afghanistan who now actually might be able to get an education and rise above her status as a piece of cattle? Yawn, that&#8217;s not cool so who cares?</p>
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		<title>By: beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is oh-so-trendy to be anti-America, anti-George W. Bush, etc. Yet I don&#8217;t see European youth protesting against these (truly, honest-to-goodness) Fascist dictatorships like Syria and Saudi. Of course America has made mistakes but I think if you want to &#8220;play that game&#8221; about which Western country has inflicted the most evil on the world, look no further than Germany, Belgium (colonialism in Africa fucked it up completely), Spain (wiped out millions in South and Central America), France (under Napolean tried to enslave all Europe), Holland (slave trade), Great Britain (killed millions of people in their various colonial conquests).... I mean, Western Europe is probably responsible for removing hundreds of millions of lives from the planet earth, just over the last 250 years. And I wasn&#8217;t even including the U.S.S.R. under Stalin and Lenin (who Putin worships) who purged about 30 million people (and that is a conservative number.)&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, the only country on the planet earth not guilty of some kind of &#8220;Empire&#8221; ambitions would be New Zealand (except, what happened to the natives there when the white man came?) or perhaps the U.S. While the U.S. might fight unnecessary wars, they don&#8217;t do it in order to commit genocide, to impose Koranic law or to simply annex the land as part of some American empire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is oh-so-trendy to be anti-America, anti-George W. Bush, etc. Yet I don&#8217;t see European youth protesting against these (truly, honest-to-goodness) Fascist dictatorships like Syria and Saudi. Of course America has made mistakes but I think if you want to &#8220;play that game&#8221; about which Western country has inflicted the most evil on the world, look no further than Germany, Belgium (colonialism in Africa fucked it up completely), Spain (wiped out millions in South and Central America), France (under Napolean tried to enslave all Europe), Holland (slave trade), Great Britain (killed millions of people in their various colonial conquests)&#8230;. I mean, Western Europe is probably responsible for removing hundreds of millions of lives from the planet earth, just over the last 250 years. And I wasn&#8217;t even including the U.S.S.R. under Stalin and Lenin (who Putin worships) who purged about 30 million people (and that is a conservative number.)</p>
<p>In fact, the only country on the planet earth not guilty of some kind of &#8220;Empire&#8221; ambitions would be New Zealand (except, what happened to the natives there when the white man came?) or perhaps the U.S. While the U.S. might fight unnecessary wars, they don&#8217;t do it in order to commit genocide, to impose Koranic law or to simply annex the land as part of some American empire.</p>
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		<title>By: beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, women can be oppressed anywhere, but I am talking about institutionalized enslavement of women, such as under the Taliban and in Saudi Arabia. I am talking about laws against women being able to learn to read and write. Laws about women being property.&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#8217;t mean to be uncivil but you just kind of proved my point from earlier. I just don&#8217;t understand why people downplay the actual system that Islamic extremists actually are fighting for. I have been to Tunisia and what I saw there horrified me (in terms of the way women are treated) however that&#8217;s nothing compared to a true &#8220;Sharia&#8221; type Islamic Republic, such as Iran or Saudi Arabia or the Taliban.&lt;br /&gt;
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But beyond that, imagine if these people were suddenly running the show, instead of America, Great Britian, and &#8220;The West&#8221;.&lt;br /&gt;
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And I think these people are actually scarier that the people you&#8217;re talking about.&lt;br /&gt;
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But they&#8217;re &#8220;anti-America&#8221; so that makes them cool, yeah?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, women can be oppressed anywhere, but I am talking about institutionalized enslavement of women, such as under the Taliban and in Saudi Arabia. I am talking about laws against women being able to learn to read and write. Laws about women being property.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be uncivil but you just kind of proved my point from earlier. I just don&#8217;t understand why people downplay the actual system that Islamic extremists actually are fighting for. I have been to Tunisia and what I saw there horrified me (in terms of the way women are treated) however that&#8217;s nothing compared to a true &#8220;Sharia&#8221; type Islamic Republic, such as Iran or Saudi Arabia or the Taliban.</p>
<p>But beyond that, imagine if these people were suddenly running the show, instead of America, Great Britian, and &#8220;The West&#8221;.</p>
<p>And I think these people are actually scarier that the people you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>But they&#8217;re &#8220;anti-America&#8221; so that makes them cool, yeah?</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver :)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver :)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beck, oppression, especially of women, exists everywhere, even in the US. Many people have very little choice about their life. Read Susan Moller Okin if you&#8217;re interested.&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with the notion that idiots are everywhere, and there are no &#8220;bad countries&#8221; per se. Sometimes I wonder about whether one should buy a largish island with plenty of everything and declare it &#8220;no idiots&#8221; zone. Would be crowded as as hell though, and also mean submission to escapism. Nevertheless the idea is tempting, too many idiots have too much detrimental influence on my and everybody elses lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beck, oppression, especially of women, exists everywhere, even in the US. Many people have very little choice about their life. Read Susan Moller Okin if you&#8217;re interested.</p>
<p>I agree with the notion that idiots are everywhere, and there are no &#8220;bad countries&#8221; per se. Sometimes I wonder about whether one should buy a largish island with plenty of everything and declare it &#8220;no idiots&#8221; zone. Would be crowded as as hell though, and also mean submission to escapism. Nevertheless the idea is tempting, too many idiots have too much detrimental influence on my and everybody elses lives.</p>
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